Episode 88

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21st May 2025

88 | Are you willing to embrace both sides of entrepreneuership?

Are you chasing the perks of entrepreneurship while quietly resenting the hard parts? You might be trying to hold only one side of the stick.

In this episode, I talk about the power of being honest about both sides of entrepreneurship—the beautiful and the brutal.

I walk you through the process of making a powerful decision: to embrace all of it and go all in or to set the stick down and choose a different path with clarity and peace.

Whether you're in a season of doubt or simply craving more clarity, this conversation will help you reflect on what you’re truly choosing—and where your power lies when you decide to fully pick it up… or set it down.

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Transcript
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I am Alex, and you're listening to The Mindful With Media Podcast.

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Speaker: Welcome back to the podcast.

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It's really interesting because

I had a totally different, I.

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Topic planned out today.

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And before I start recording, typically

I like to just brain dump all of

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my thoughts in a journal entry.

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And I, as I was journaling about this

other topic, I was just feeling really,

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don't know if icky is the right word, but

I just found myself like really avoiding.

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Journaling.

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Like I kept wanting to go get a snack

or go get my phone and check Instagram

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or I was like, well, maybe, you

know, I'm just not feeling it today.

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Maybe I'll just go on a walk

and like listen to a podcast.

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Like I just really was not wanting to

prep the podcast episode, but I just.

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Dug deep and kind of started

journaling about that.

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Like, why am I feeling so

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why am I having such

a hard time with this?

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And

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I real realized, because I

was thinking about this other

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topic from like a very like.

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I need to fix this kind of

problem or I need to like change

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people's viewpoint on this.

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And it just didn't feel good.

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But then as I just kept journaling

about this, I kind of was pondering

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this other topic, which I'll

introduce, and it's this idea that

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entrepreneurship comes with two sides.

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There's all of the benefits

of running your own business.

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And then with that, there are some,

I don't even know if know, even know

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if I want to use the word challenges,

but hard parts again, like I think

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because I'm feel familiar with.

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Coaching tools and how

you describe things.

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I'm just careful with how

I wanna describe things.

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So I don't know if exactly how to

describe this other side, but some

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harder parts or some challenges

of running your own business.

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And I think sometimes we

don't talk about those.

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We just pretend like it's

all good and wonderful and

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beautiful and so I wanted to.

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Address, just kind of this idea

of both sides of entrepreneurship.

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And this has come about because I have

had multiple clients in the past that

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have been kind of trying to decide if

they want to keep doing this business

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thing or if they're tired of it, and

I've kind of coached them through that.

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And so.

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I kind of wanna start

with just talking about

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all of the amazing things about

running your own business.

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I think the first thing that

comes to mind is the time freedom

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and the flexibility that comes

when you have your own business.

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And it is honestly amazing if

you think about it, that I.

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100% choose my work hours.

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I could work any hour of any day

and nobody else is telling me

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when to work or when not to work.

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And kind of with that, like if

anything comes up in my life,

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I have complete control to.

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Cancel a call or just not do what

I had was going to do that day.

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Like I can totally control

my work schedule and

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I, I think about this all

the time, like I spend

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How many hours in a week are there?

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Let's look that up actually.

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Okay, so there's 168 hours in a week, and

I have childcare for six hours a week.

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So 162 hours of my 168 hours every week.

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I.

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I am with my kids and I wouldn't, I

like they sleep in their own rooms.

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I sleep in my own room, but so it's

not like we're hanging out all the

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time, but I think that's pretty

amazing that I get to spend so much

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time with them and run my own business

and make money from my business.

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Like that is amazing.

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Before I married my husband, Matt.

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So if you're new here, I probably

haven't talked about it in a while,

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but Matt, in 2017, he was in a, or he

was playing basketball and as a result

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of an accident that happened while he

was playing basketball, had emergency

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brain surgery, and then as a result

of that brain surgery he has had.

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Multiple grand mal seizures.

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He has epilepsy, and when we were

dating and engaged, he was having

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frequent grand mal seizures, and my

parents had a pretty open conversation

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with me before we got engaged about.

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What it would mean if I married

Matt, that it was a pretty real

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possibility that I could become the

primary provider, depending on how

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his health played out in the future.

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And when we got engaged, I had.

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Let's see, I was like in the middle

of a semester and then I had one more

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semester after that and then I would be

finishing up my degree in statistics.

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And I had done some really solid

internships during my undergrad years.

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And basically I knew when I was really

confident that if I needed to, I could

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find a good paying job and I could

provide for our family if I needed.

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But then, so we got married in June.

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Well, let me say this.

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Matt had a grand mal seizure in March

of:

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another grand mal seizure for four

years, which was unheard of for him.

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And so in those four years we got

engaged, we got married, we had two kids.

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Matt was working a full-time job that was.

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Paying well for our family

needs at the time and I was

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able to stay home with our kids.

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I started mindful with media as a

passion project and then felt really

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strongly that I should monetize it, but

we really didn't need to at the time.

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In this process of starting my business.

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Until last year, so March of 2024,

Matt had a, they call it a breakthrough

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seizure, and it's basically like if you've

gone a really long time without having a

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grand mal, grand mal seizure, and you have

another one, he had a grand mal seizure,

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and then he had several more after that.

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And so last year.

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Things were pretty stressful trying

to figure out his health and his

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work because all of his grand mal

seizures were happening on days he was

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working in the office and trying to

figure out all of that and potential.

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We were looking into another

brain surgery and anyways, it

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was a really stressful time.

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Ultimately, what we.

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What ended up happening is near the

end of:

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find something that could be more

accommodating for his condition.

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But oh yeah.

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I kind of got away with that, but I,

I just remember journaling last year

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when things were really up in the air.

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Like I am so grateful that I.

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Followed that impression to start

mindfulness media because now I'm

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in a position where I, I already

have this business set up and I

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can, I can grow it if I need to.

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I can stop it if I need to.

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Basically, whatever our families

needs, I have this, this business

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set up to provide for our family

if, if we need it to, and so.

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That's one of the benefits of

having your own business is I could

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still take care of our kids for.

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Most of the day and make

money for my business.

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And another benefit of entrepreneurship

is the unlimited earning potential.

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And I think this is what people

get excited about, is there

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is no, what's that called?

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Like, you know, kind of like standard

raises or, you know, certain jobs

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kind of have caps on how much money

you can make or things like that.

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Like.

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There's, there's no, nobody capping

your income as an entrepreneur.

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The the earning potential is

unlimited and a lot of people

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stay in the game because of this.

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'cause they have this belief at the

back of their mind, like, this could

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make me a ton of money someday.

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I personally believe

that if that's your main.

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Motivation, and especially if it's

your only motivation, it's not strong

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enough to overcome all of the challenges

that come with entrepreneurship

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that will address in a minute.

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And, and just like if you have this

idea of like, I'm only gonna do this

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if it works, that only gets you so far.

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I, and I can't remember who this is from,

maybe Rich Lipman, I can't remember, but.

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I think he says like, if you're here

until it works, you'll be successful.

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If you're like, okay, I'm gonna

give it however x amount of time

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and see if it works, you're gonna

have a really hard time making it.

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Other benefits of entrepreneurship, I

think is just that you, you really are.

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Completely in control of everything.

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What you do, how you're making

your money, what you're teaching,

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the different programs you run.

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And I actually remember, this was

like long before I was familiar with

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coaching, but I'm, I signed up for

a free call with a, I dunno if she'd

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called herself a business coach,

but I was asking for questions.

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About my business.

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'cause she also had a business and

I, I remember her, 'cause I was

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working part-time for someone else at

the time, and I remember her asking

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like, if you could do everything

you currently do in your business,

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but just for her, like under her

business and get paid by her to do it.

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Like, would you want that?

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And I was like, no.

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Like.

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I like to be the one in charge.

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I like creating and coming up with ideas.

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I like to be the one to decide, which is

funny because I also remember in the, at

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the beginning of my business, I thought

that I wanted someone to just tell me

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what to do, and I actually thought that,

I think a lot of people think they want

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this, so I actually created a program.

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Where I would just tell you what to

do to make a certain amount of money,

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but I found while I was running that

program that they don't, you did

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not start a business to have someone

tell you what to do, even though you

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might think you want that because it

can feel really scary and uncertain.

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When you're not following a traditional

step-by-step process or framework, or

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you're not having someone tell you what to

do, but if you started your own business,

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you don't want somebody

to tell you what to do.

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Yeah, I'm gonna leave it at that.

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I was gonna like give some exceptions,

but I'm just gonna leave it at that.

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I really think anyone who started

their own business doesn't want

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someone to tell them what to do.

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I know the last kind of point that I

wanted to touch on about the pros of

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entrepreneurship is that you can make

money doing something that you love.

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And this is why most people that I work

with start they have a, a, a passion for

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something or yeah, they're just really

excited about something and just that

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realization that you can make money.

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Doing that, doing something that

you love and you're passionate

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about is a really exciting idea.

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So those are all of the amazing

things about entrepreneurship, but

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if you decide to run your own business,

you pick up both sides of the stick.

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And so I kind of wanna address

the other things that also

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come with entrepreneurship and.

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And really helping you decide like,

is entrepreneurship what you want?

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'cause I think sometimes we

are like, well, I want all

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those things I just addressed.

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I wanted, I want the time

freedom and the flexibility and

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unlimited earning potential.

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And I want control and I want

make money doing something, love.

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Like I want those, but I

don't want these other things.

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Like I don't, I don't, I only

want one side of the stick.

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And so you end up feeling this, kind of

this disconnect or this frustration with

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your business because you're trying to

choose the one without getting the other.

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But I think it can be really powerful

to recognize the other side that

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you're choosing to, and either be all

in and choose those things too, or.

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Decide, you know what?

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I don't want those things.

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It's not worth it to me.

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And I'm going to set this down

and choose a different stick.

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I'm gonna choose either, you know,

no business at all, or I'm going

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to choose working for somebody

else, finding another job, or

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being a full-time stay at home mom.

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Whatever your your situation is,

I think there's a lot of power in.

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In having your eyes wide open to what

you're choosing and embracing that and

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not pretending like, yeah, not just

having this frustration that these

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other things are coming with it too.

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So the other side of the stick

is that it can feel lonely.

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I think people don't talk about that

side of entrepreneurship where typically

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if you're a solopreneur, you are not.

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Meeting with people all the time.

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I mean, like a lot of my, my audience

are coaches and so maybe you're meeting

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with your clients, but it's not like

you're working on a team, building

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something together, bouncing ideas

off of someone, creating something

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with another person or, you know,

you don't, you don't have coworkers.

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I guess I'll just say that

you don't have coworkers and

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that can feel very isolating.

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Another aspect of entrepreneurship

that can feel hard for people

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is this responsibility of

holding yourself accountable.

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Whether that's accountable to boundaries

you've set in your business of when

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you're going to work or when you're

not going to work, or holding yourself

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accountable for completing certain tasks

or, yeah, just like this responsibility

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that nobody else is making you work

or, or deciding how many hours you

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should work or there's nobody else.

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You don't have a boss that's checking

in on you or you're not clocking

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in or clocking out and somebody

else is looking at your time card.

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That it really is just up to you if

you're, you're gonna do it or not.

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And.

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This is one that I, IFI learned really

early on my, on in my business that

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I've been pretty true to my work hours.

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But it is something that I, I'm working

on getting even better at because

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I do really well when I have, I,

I've set it up to have someone else

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hold me accountable, whether that's.

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A private client call or a podcast

interview scheduled, or my kid,

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you know, the, I'm dropping my

kids off at the babysitter and I

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have that time set aside to work.

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But if I don't have somebody to hold

me accountable and I just say, oh, I'll

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work on this at this time and, and then

something else fun comes up During that

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time, it can be harder for me to say no

to that fun thing to say, no, I already

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committed to do this in my business.

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And, and it, and just kind of coming

back to the pros of this, like

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it's such a gift that you can be

so flexible that when you're not

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feeling well, you don't have to work.

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That when you.

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Do you have a fun thing going on?

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You can go to that and

not you do your business.

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I don't think it's always cut

and dry is just like always do

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what you said you're gonna do.

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But I do think it's important to ask

yourself what you really want long term.

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I, I shared this question I think

in last week's podcast, but I've

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been using it for lots of aspects

of my life lately is what do I want?

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Not just now, but most.

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And, and that can just be a really

helpful reflection question of

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like, what do I really want?

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Not just now, but most.

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Another aspect of entrepreneurship that

people can wrestle with is just this idea

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that you are responsible for everything.

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Another is the decision fatigue.

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You are making 100% of the

decisions, and especially if you are.

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A mom of with kids at home or

honestly just a human, you're

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making a lot of decisions every day.

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And so if you're also making those

decisions in your business of what

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offers to have and when to work and

when not to work, and how many hours to

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work and how to use your work time and.

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What you want your branding colors

to be and what to post on social

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media and how you want to launch.

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And there's a, there's a lot

of decisions that come from

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running your own, your business.

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You don't have anyone else

making those decisions for you.

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And yeah, pros and cons of that, but that

decision fatigue can feel, can feel real.

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Another aspect is the uncertainty, and

this is what, , I wouldn't say that.

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I was gonna say this is what I find

clients struggle with the most,

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but that's, that's not true either.

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I think all of these different people

struggle with different times and

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different, different things are hard

for different people, but, you know,

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if you have a traditional job, you're

either on a salary where you know exactly

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how much you're going to be making.

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Each month, each year.

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And that's just a set standard.

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Or if you have an hourly job, it's

very certain if I work X amount of

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hours, I will make X amount of dollars.

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And some people really like that.

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Certainty and predictability,

I would say I do.

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I really like certainty

and predictability.

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But entrepreneurship comes at

a cost that you don't have that

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certainty and predictability

that comes from a full-time job.

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There's pros of, of the uncertainty

too, you know, where it's, that's why

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you have unlimited earning potential.

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That's why you can work so few hours and

make so much money, relatively speaking.

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Because the uncertainty.

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You don't know how many people are

gonna sign up for a specific offer.

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You don't know exactly when your

next client is going to come.

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You don't know

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exactly how much you're going to be.

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Making and side note, there are ways

to set up your business for recurring

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revenue so you can have a baseline , so

you can have that reliable income

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and that some certainty in there.

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But even in that, there's, there's a lot

of ups and downs in, in entrepreneurship

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in that that uncertainty can feel

really scary to our, our human brains.

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I kinda already mentioned this one,

but you don't have anybody telling you

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what to do, even if you think you want

somebody tell, to tell you what to do.

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Personal development journey, this is

one that you could see is all of these

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you could see as pros and cons, but

that is a challenge of entrepreneurship

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that I think most people don't expect,

but you learn pretty quickly just.

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How much you grow when you

have your own business.

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And I will admit there was a time,

hmm, I don't know, not too long ago

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when I I wanted to stop my business.

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Because I felt like it would be an out,

like I wouldn't have to grow so much.

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I wouldn't have to like do

all this personal development

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that came with the business.

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I was like, I didn't

wanna quit my business.

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I was just ready to quit.

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Like all of the inner growth.

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Which is funny because I love the inner

growth, but I was like, oh my gosh,

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I'm just tired of learning and growing.

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Like I just wanna break from this.

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And of course there are

all aspects of life.

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There are.

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The business is not the only way

to grow as a person, but having

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your own business is a sure way to

bring you on a personal development

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journey and that can feel growing.

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That stretches you in in new ways.

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Some other things that come with

kind of related to this personal

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development journey, but can come

with entrepreneurship is self-doubt,

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accidentally seeking external validation.

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Trying to prove something,

feeling embarrassed about

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where you're at in business.

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Just all of these inner things that come

up when you're running your own business.

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And then also just like the

more a practical of like.

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There's legal things and

tech things and admin things.

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There's a lot of behind the scenes work

that people don't often picture when

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they think about starting a business.

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And so.

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Like I said, like I think it can be

really beautiful and powerful to look

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at both sides of the stick, all of

the amazing benefits of running your

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own business and the things that can

feel harder or challenging, and only

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you can decide if you are willing to

walk the path of entrepreneurship.

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And I, I wanna make it really clear that

I don't think it's a right or wrong thing.

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I don't think one way is right or

wrong, but I do think only you know

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what decision is right for you and

your family, and only you can make

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that powerful decision to be all in

and pick up both sides of the stick.

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And embrace the good things and the hard

things or set that stick down and embrace

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the good things and the hard things that

come of, of not running your own business.

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After Matt quit his job last year and

we were gonna have him start looking

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for jobs that were more accommodating

for his condition, we realized.

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It would probably be best if

he never worked a full-time

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job again with his health.

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And so we're kind of looking at our

different options and I seriously

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considered finding either a

full-time job or a part-time job.

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But when we were doing the math and

we looked at how many hours I was

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working on a time, which was about.

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10 hours at the time, six hours of

childcare, plus times when my kids

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were doing quiet time and then.

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At the time I was making

about $2,000 a month.

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And just doing the math, it was like,

well, that's making $46 an hour.

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And so

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just realizing, just doing that

math plus when you factored in.

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All of the other benefits, you know,

the potential to make more, still

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working the same amount of hours

that I was working at the time.

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It's something that fills me up and

lights me up so that when I'm not working,

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I'm way better able to serve my family.

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You know, I was doing something that

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so much time with our kids and caring

for our house and connecting with Matt.

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Once we factored all of that, it just

didn't make sense to find something else.

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from running your own business.

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able to embrace it with both feet in and.

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That's honestly why I'm willing to

invest in a high ticket coach because

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I love having someone in my corner to

help with the other side of the stick,

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the challenges, the loneliness, the.

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The accountability, the decision

fatigue, the uncertainty, the

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personal development journey.

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I love having a coach to

help me with all of that.

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And if you want someone to support

you on your path of entrepreneurship,

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if you are all in with your

business, I would love to chat and.

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I can't make all of the, the things on

the other side of the stick go away,

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but I can definitely help and I, I

love to, to do this work with clients.

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So if you're feeling this tug to

explore what it could look like to work

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together, send me a DM on Instagram.

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The Alex fails or send me an

email, alex@mindfulwithmedia.com.

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About the Podcast

Mindful with Media
This is the podcast for entrepreneurial moms who want to grow a meaningful, profitable business without sacrificing their other priorities (like spending time with their kids or getting enough sleep).

Host Alex Fales—business coach, mindset mentor, and mom—shares honest conversations, simple strategies, and powerful mindset shifts to help you and make money doing work you love and grow as a person while you're at it.

Expect solo episodes, authentic chats, and real-life stories that help you blend business strategy with personal growth, so you can build a business that supports your life (not the other way around).

Because you don’t need more hustle.
You need clarity, confidence, and the courage to do business your way.